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TalkStarter: Is “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” About Date Rape?

December 9, 2015 by Jill Whitney

deep snow

Everyone knows the song Baby, It’s Cold Outside, performed by numerous artists over the years. I’ve always liked it—it’s fun, creative, and playful (and in a range I can sing along to 🙂 ). So I was a bit taken aback a couple years ago when a young woman I know referred to it as “the date-rape song.” She was particularly disturbed about the line “Hey, what’s in this drink?” which she thought might refer to rufies (although rufies weren’t even invented in 1944 when the song was written). She thought the whole thing demonstrated the man’s lack of listening to the woman’s No.

It got me thinking. I’ve always seen the song as flirtatious. The lines usually sung by the woman sound, to my ear, like someone who very much wants to stay but is concerned about what other people think, not someone who truly wants to leave. “This evening has been so very nice” doesn’t sound like someone who feels threatened. The lines usually sung by the man seem persuasive rather than coercive. The song seems like an expression of the eternal dance between desire and self-restraint, which I consider a fun, exciting aspect of sexuality.

But you certainly could hear the song differently. I was interested to learn from Wikipedia that the parts on the original score are named “wolf” and “mouse”—and that the “wolf” role was sung by a woman as early as 1948. Do those factoids change anything?

What do you think about the song? What do your friends and your partner think? If you’re the parent of a teen or young adult, what does your kid think?

Where is the line between persuasion and excessive pressure? Does a sexually interested person have to stop asking at the first “I really should go”? Can a person spend an entire evening feeling torn about whether to have sex? Is ambivalence necessarily a bad thing? What is the role of alcohol in coercion and consent? Have you ever experienced being highly attracted or aroused and not feeling quite ready to have sex? Was it a bad experience, an exciting one, or what? Can we prevent date rape and still be open to the possibility of seduction?

I’d love to hear readers’ views on any of this….

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  1. Marcia Whitney says

    December 14, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    This post led to a long conversation about this song as my two pre-teen daughters (ages 10 and 12) and I baked Christmas cookies this weekend. The song “Let It Snow” is not date-rape-y (just a kiss goodnight, and then home). Listening to “Baby, It’s Cold Outside,” my girls got freaked out as we talked about it. Clearly, the man was trying to ploy the woman with hard alcohol (“What’s in this drink?”) to make decisions that she would not otherwise make. He did not listen to her saying “no” multiple times and was clearly more interested in achieving his own sexual desires than listening to her boundaries. Our two cents!

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Jill Whitney is a licensed marriage and family therapist dedicated to improving communication about relationships, sexuality, and intimacy. Learn more about her and her practice at Green Tree Professional Counseling.

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